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1975 Honda TL 250

1975 Honda TL 250 - The Honda Trials History

(Honda Code 376)


In April 1974 Sammy Miller flew from Heathrow to Tokyo, Japan. Sammy signed a contract with Honda for the new range trials bikes development.

Sammy was impressed on his first travel to Honda R&D headquarters. High security level, special sections constructed for testing new trials bikes, and everybody waiting for him.

He started working with the TL125 and XL250 engine. The TL125 was the first Honda Trials attempt using the small 121,9cc two-valve sohc engine from the SL125 Trail Honda.

Honda R&D team was benn placed at Sammy's disposal to develop the new Honda Trials bike and Sammy decided to start with the XL250, but found a lot of difficulties to adapt it from the Trails needs to Trials requirements.

Sammy did a giant work on this development, big efforts to improve carburation, completely new frame (he based on its also designed High-Boy for the Bultaco trials), new upper yokes, also replaced the rims for alloy ones, and a lot of work on the suspension definition.
The silencer was also redefinedto obtain the maximum efficency. 

In 1974 Sammy scored several wins on the Honda 250 first prototype. In October of this year, Sammy Miller won his first victory with the second prototype Honda at Sturminister Newton Trial at Gillingham.


Picture thanks to the website friend Justyn Norek

 
Picture thanks to the website friend Justyn Norek ©

This second prototype had a 248,6cc (74 X 57,8mm) alloy cylinder barrel with chromed bore, four-valves, using 24mm Keihin carburetor. 

This prototype was famous for having the number plate SAM 1N.



Picture thanks to the website friend Justyn Norek ©

In 1975 the TL250 production started. The first details for this bike anounced a power output 16,5 Hp at 7.000 rpm, but finally the satandard production reduced that at 16 Hp at 8.000 rpm.
Honda produced roughly 4.000 bikes mostly for the Us market.
The USA rider Marland Whaley was riding with this bike at those years.

The bike inherited the TL125 design. Price was somewhat cheaper than Spanish bikes.


The ENGINE

Four stroke single Cylinder OHC
Displacement: 248cc
Bore and Stroke: 74mm x 57.8mm
Compression ratio: 9.1:1
Clutch: wet multy-plate
Ignition: Flywheel magneto
 
The TRANSMISSION
Five speed, constant mesh
 
The FRAME
Wheelbase: 1.333mm
Weight: 99Kg.
Tyre size 2.75 x 21, 4.00 x 18
Telescopic front forks
Rear swing arm suspension
 
                                 
 
The nice Honda TL250 was painted Honda Metallic Silver and the nice Honda Red Accent color.

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Great picture of Derek Edgar at SSDT 1977, thanks to John Moffat. Moffat's Picture ©
Derek worked at the Puch factory, Graz, Austria and then worked for Montesa in the USA. He was one of Scotland's best trials riders, along with his elder brother Norman and both rode in the 1968 ISDT in Italy, then Derek rode again in 1969 - Garmisch Partenkirchen and 1970 at El Escorial, Madrid!
 
Funny TL250 picture thanks to Eddy Galea
 

Thanks to my friend Patrick and son to sent me this nice picture for Christmas time.

                       
 Thanks to Patrick again for this picture with the nice TL250

1975 Honda bikes

1975 TL 125 High-Boy 

 
 

In 1975 Sammy Miller introduced a big improvement on the TL125 frame. He developed a new frame for the 125/150 Honda.
This frame was built using Renolds 531 tubes and saves more than 11Kg and was finished chromiud plated. The sump shield was screwed. High-Boy frame was designed to accept all the standard Honda 125 parts.


 
The High-boy Sammy Myller frame was 11Kg lighter than the standard Honda TL125 frame.















An original one High-boy Sammy frame using an XL180 engine. The picture was sent by Dean Horwood from UK.

Thanks to Alan Johnstone for these pictures of a original Hi-Boy frame. This one, under restoring, is numbered as 226, and as Alan says less than 500 units of the original 1970's were made.
According the information I have I don't know any number higher than 400.



Thanks also to Frank Brzeski for to send me these interesting projects. First we can see two Hi-Bot frames, one original from the 70's and second one a 2010 reproduction. The most interesting is that on following pictures you can see the original one mounted with a 1978 TL125 engine and the 2010 frame assembled with a TLR200 engine, both projects thanks to Frank.



Hi-Boy original frame mounted with a 1978 TL125 engine


XL125 engine, hand made parts approaching RS200 look, thanks to Gabriele Milan
 


 

1976 Honda bikes

 

1976 the Honda Derek Green XL250 


 
Photo taken by Jimmy Young © thanks to John Moffat.


 This nice and rare Honda trials was built at the shop of Vic Allan Motorcycles in Bathgate, West Lothian, Scotland during the 1975/76 season by the mechanic Derek Green. 

It was a 250 XL Motorsport Honda converted for trials similar to the Jefferies Honda. 

 Later it was attached to a sidecar for a while. 

 Mudguards were Italian StilMotor, most parts are Honda, except the tank made by HomerliteEngland

. Shocks were Girling Gas Shocks.
 Bike information also thanks to John.
 

1976 the Honda TL50 (Honda Code 150)

The TL50 went on sale on 1976. Its stylish lines came from the larger TL125 and TL250, and it was equipped with a 5-speed transmission.

The TL50 was offered in two colors, dark Green and Red Accent combined glossy White


 


The ENGINE

Displacement: 49cc.
Maximum Power: 4,2PS at 9.500 rpm
Maximum torque: 0,36Kg/m at 7.500 rpm
Ignition: CDI

 
The TRANSMISSION

Five speed

 
The FRAME
Diamond steel

Weight: 80 Kg


 

The Honda TL50 engine, perfect performance Air-Cooled 4-st. Single OHC

 

1976-77 Honda bikes

1976 Honda 305cc

 
 
 
Sammy Miller developed in 1976 this nice Long-stroke 305cc Honda.
With a new frame and the 250cc bored out to 305cc. Softer cams and small bore carburettor along with many hours, produced avery competitive bike.
As Sammy Miller says, only three engines were produced. The number one is today located at Sammy Miller Museum Trust. www.sammymiller.co.uk

More info at: http://www.trialmag.net/trialmag/article/5711/Sammy+Miller+Honda

The engine had 305cc displacement with a compression ratio 8.2:1 and offered 22.5 Hp at 8.00rpm
The weight was 90 Kg and was equiped with his own Hi Boy chrome plated Renolds 531 tube Frame.


The ENGINE
Air cooled, four.stroke, 4 valve with chain driven camshaft.
Displacement: 305cc.
Compressin ratio 8.2:1
Power: 22.5 hp at 8.000 rpm
 
The TRANSMISSION
5 speed, Rear sprocket 57 teeth and gearbox sprocket 14 teeth

The FRAME
Hi boy chrome plated Reinolds tubing
weight:  89,8 Kg
Wheelbase:  1295.5 mm


1977 Honda 305 long Stroke (RTL 300)



Thanks to Pat from Aspen Cafe to sent me these valuable pictures. Please respect its Copyright.

1976 Honda 305 "Long Stroke"

1976 Honda 305 "Long Stroke" - The Honda Trials History

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1976 Honda 305 "Long Stroke"

Mr Hiroshi Kondo had the kidness to sent me this nice picture from 1976 when he rode at SSDT with this very special Honda Works RTL305 long stroke type. He rode later, next year, at World Trials Championship with the upgraded Honda Works RTL 306 Short Stroke type.


1977 Honda 306 Short Stroke (RTL 300)

HIroshi Kondo rode at 1977 World Trials Championship with the upgraded Honda Works RTL 306 Short Stroke type. RTL 300 named by Honda.



Also Marland Whaley was riding at 1978 Scottish Six Days trial, Marland had problems with the machine and retired on Wednesday. After that, Marland ended the Contract with Honda and signed by Montesa starting with the new 310cc prototype.



The pictures of this machine and the Marland Whaley were taken by the friend of this site owner Pat Criou at Oberiberg, Switzerland in 1978.

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      1978, Marland Whaley at SSDT with the Honda 306. © Jimmy Young

1978, same day picture above, Marland Whaley at SSDT with the Honda 306. © Jimmy Young
 
 
Same year, Marland Whaley at SSDT with the Honda 306. © Jimmy Young
 
Same day above, Marland Whaley at SSDT with the Honda 306. © Jimmy Young
 
 
Still alive Rob's Honda Short Stroke, ex-Nick Jefferies 1976 RTL 306 

1978 Honda 360 RTL

With the goal to improve and potentiate the 305 machine, in 1978 Rob Shepherd received a new engine with a new capacity of 359cc displacement, with 82mm bore and 68mm stroke.

The new engine was capable to give a spectacular 19,8 Hp at 6.500rpm.

This big machine was the most powerfull bike at this time, maybe too much, because as Rob said, the 360 was a hardest bike to ride.

The powerfull 360

Thanks to Jimmy Young for these nice pictures. © Jimmy Young

Rob Shepherd at Scottish Six Days Trial section with the powerfull 360. © Jimmy Young

Rob with number 70 plate at 1978 Scottish Six days Trial. © Jimmy Young

Rob Shepherd in action on an other section of the Scottish Six days Trial. © Jimmy Young

Japanese Honda rider Kiyoteru Hattori also at Scottish Trial. © Jimmy Young

Again Honda rider Kiyoteru Hattori also at Scottish Trial but now in 1980. Picture thanks to Iain Lawrie © who took this nice pic at SSDT Cailliach section. Thanks a lot Iain!


1980-81 Honda RTL 360

1980-81 Honda RTL 360 - The Honda Trials History

 

 

The 1984 Honda RTL 360 at Motegi Museum in Japan

At only 18 years old, Honda gave the powerfull RTL 360 to Eddy Lejeune.
Kiyoteru Hattori was another rider from Honda Trials Team that also rode the RTL 360.

First Honda 360 prototypes were made early 1978, Rob Shepherd was one of the first to ride on this big machine. The new machine was the most powerfull trials bike never made. After several problems at first time, the bike was revised by Honda due to a overheating problems.
The History of the RTL 360 was long and difficult to follow, There was a lot of improvements and different prototypes. At same time very few units were made, only works bikes. 
The RTL 360 from 1980-81 was made for Eddy due to Shepherd was retiring from World Championship competition in 1980. Then, Lejeune started at Honda Team as the official and number one rider. 
This season was 1981 and he rode now with his loved RTL 360. Remember that one year later, in 1982 he won with this wonderfull machine his first World Trials Championship.
 

 






This nice picture sent by a friend of this website Pat from Aspen Cafe (French Alps) shows the three historical 360 RTL's 

Number 3: Honda RTL 306 Short Stroke big tank Whaley's SSDT 1977-78 
Number 4: Honda RTL 360 Eddy Lejeune 1982
Number 5: Honda RTL 360 Eddy Lejeune 1984
 
Eddy Lejeune, 1982 World Trials Championship, Coll de la Presolana, Italy. Picture thanks to Gabriele Milan from Italy.

In accordance to Tommy Sandham's journalist expert the RTL 360 was the best bike he never rode, on the same way also he reported that in opinion of the top British riders have ridden the bike, it was the best trials bike of the moment.

As telling the 1983 American Motorcycles magazin, Schreiber said "Eddie's an excellent rider, but the bike is also excellent in muddy and wet conditions. 


There is small quantity RTL 360 survivors today. This 1984 RTL 360 pictured one owns at Italian collector. Maybe one of the most expensive Honda trial bikes and of course difficult to see.

 
This picture taken by Antonio Maugeri in shows the 1982 Lejeune's RTL 360
Painted all Red color, Silevr grey engine, Silver aluminum wheels, Today, the bike is still alive in France, belongs to a French collector.
Thanks for the picture Antonio!!
 
Thanks to Dean here a nice picture from 1983 World Championship. Eddy Lejeune with the RTL360 83.
Eddy Lejeune at World Round in Texas with the Honda RTL360 in 1983
Picture thanks to Albert Wing.
 
 This original one 360 from 1982 owns to my Honda Trials History friend Carlo from Italy. Grazie again Carlo!!

The Engine

Type: Four stroke single OHC 2-Valve, air cooled
Displacement: 359,09 cc
Power: Over 20 hp at 6.000 rpm

The Frame
Type: Diamond tube
Caster angle: 26º
Weight: 88 Kg
Wheelbase: 1300 mm
 

Thanks to my friend Patrick Jay for this nice picture from 1980. Eddy at Fully, Switzerland with the 1980 RTL

1976 Honda TL200R (Code 490)

1976 Honda TL200R (Code 490) - The Honda Trials History


© Picture thanks to Patrick Verrier

1976 TL200R


The RSC Honda TL200R was the first of the dinasty of nice and competitive 200cc RSC Honda trials bikes.
This model started using the TL125 (coming from Honda XL125 engine) 125cc engine (no CDI yet) upgraded to 200cc. Ignition system was the same used on the 1976 TL125 placed at camshaft and covered with the 125cc engraved cap or some times without engraving letters.

This engine was fitted with a extra plate on the flywheel crankcase and one just on the base of the cylinder. Oposite of the TL200R and following RS engine family, this engine had no numbers and no identification.

Take care, no numbers means never engraved, NO DELETED.

 


This bike was offered with two colours petrol tank and seat, White and red. The tubular frame was ever black powder painted. The frame was made in too thin section, only 84Kg weight, (competitors at this time usually had 92-94Kg weight!!)  because of that, had some strength problems.

Carburetot fitted was the little Keihin used on the TL or XL 125 engines, although later on the TL200RII the Honda Racing Service used biger Keihin 22 used on the 200cc engines.


This bike was a super light trials bike at the moment, easy to ride, and with an exceptional engine withan incredible inertia an torque.

This was the Eddy Lejeune's bike used on the beginning of his World Trials Championship, from 1976 to 1979 when he inherited the Sheperd's RTL360. Also the site friend Hiroshi Kondo used this bike at Japan Trials Championship at 1976 and 77.

Thanks again to the friend of this site Hiroshi Kondo to allow me to us these nice pictures. The first Honda TL200R white color. © Hiroshi Kondo for The Honda Trials History web use only.


In opinion of Hiroshi Kondo the bike had the gravity center too high, in fact the second model Hiroshi had, was improved by him reducing this problem.
Eric Lejeune, Eddye's brother, also reported some strengh problems (Trial Classic Magazine very interesting article) and a tendency to lose the ground from the front wheel do tue its low weight. Eddy added 600gr extra weight attached on front suspension bars. 

The singular silencer engraved with the RSC letters was the same that later used the TL200RII and the RS200T. 


Thanks again to Hiroshi Kondo to allow me to us these nice pictures. The improved Honda TL200R red color. © Hiroshi Kondo for The Honda Trials History web use only.

This is one of the nicest and original TL200R I never saw. Except rear shock absorvers all the parts were stricty followed as they originaly were. Thanks to Enric Basté.

Enric made a very hard and professional job on the rebuilding and restoring of this unique bike. Part by par, screw by screw and strictily following its originallity the bike was remade as a jewel. Here you have the result, enjoy!!

 

 



1978 Honda T305L FRASER

Thanks to Steve Alderson for this nice T305L picture
 
 Thanks to Martien from Holland for this Fraser frame picture.
Here we can appreciate fully naked chromed plated frame.

                       
This other one shows full assembled Fraser bike (again thanks to Martien)
 
Joan Figols, from Berga, Made this FRASER frame replica. He made some units after testing a T305L FRASER. He told me enjoyed a lot with his maneuverability and driveability.


Joan also made a 305 Long Stroke, Rob Sheperd/Whaley gas tank replica and made this interesting mixture. FRASER frame with TL250 engine (enlarged to 305cc) and 305 look. Thanks Joan to send me these pictures and info..
Joan Figols © Pictures. 



 Some time later, David Fraser Products developed a new and revolutionary bike:


1978 Honda FRASER HT250 


In 1978 David Fraser of Redditch developed this special machine. In this bike he used the XL250S (1978) twin exhaust engine. The bike was kown as Fraser Honda HT250.
Small desctription of this bike was related on Tommy Sandham's Honda trials book. (pag 74)

THe HT250 was a very special and rare bike. Today I only have reference from two only HT250 survivors.
One under restoration (Honda Trials History) and second one from Callum Roberston from UK who had the kindness to sent me some pictures.
 

 
 
This one (The Honda Trials History) and still under restoration could be one of the few David Fraser HT250 survivors today.

 
Nice restoration (not finished yet) from Joan F. (The Honda Trials History). Here you can see twin exhaust system.
 
This very competitive trials bike mounted for first time on one trials bike history a unusual intermediate chain.
(later in 1985, JJCobas from Spain applyed same solution on his revolutionary Montesa and Bultaco engine: The JJ Cobas Trials bike)

 This is the later JJ cobas double chain system frame. Picture property of The Honda Trials History webpage. 

 ©The Honda Trials History
 

 
Funny and clever intermadiate chain system.This unit without tensioner but using half link chain. The Honda Trials History unit.

Same chain system.This unit with tensioner short chain. Callum Roberston unit.

This rare bike was made in a really small series. Less than twenty were built.
This second chain comes from gearbox sprocket to countershaft mounted on the swinging arm pivot. The large chain comes from this swinging arm pivot to the rear wheel.
The innovative system allows to maintain a constant chain tension without any tensioner help.
 
 


 
Thanks to Callum Roberston for these pictures from his HT250. © Pictures Copyright Mr Roberston throught The Honda Trials History.

1979 Honda Pete Jerred

1979 Honda Pete Jerred - The Honda Trials History

Pete Jerred, a dealer from St. Ives made some special bikes based on the Honda XL125 engine and enlarged to 220cc capacity. Some of these bikes rode at SSDT in 1979. Nick Fossey rode at this SSDT year with this bike, also Nick Holt as you can see in this picture sent by the friend of this site Jimmy Young.

Thanks also to John Moffat I know that was in 1979 Scottish Six Days Trial edittion and the section of this picture was Ben Nevis.

1979 Honda TL200RII


1979 Honda TL200RII 
(Honda Code 490)


 


The nice TL200RII was biult by RSC, Racing Service Corporation. As the contemporary RS200T and RS220T where produced in a small quantities (360 units white color and 150 red color).
Frame number began from number 2001.

From 2001 to 2360 frame number the TL200RII had a white painted fiver petrol tank, with a vertical transparent strip to see petrol level. Also had the old Honda logotype at both sides. 
Second productions, from 2360 to 2510 were painted in red and finished with the yellow Honda wings decals.


Engine was 197,74cc RSC from Japan developed. This engine is still derived from XL125. First equipped with CDI at camshaft with 1.59 Kg/m maximum torque at 4.000rpm

©Picture thanks to Patrick Verrier, This pictured unit was rebuild using and respecting all the original Honda parts. Also the painting was exactelly as it was produced in 1979

The engine number on crankcase began with the RS leters.
Fully engine was painted silver gray.
The frame was black painted diamond steel, with also steel swing arm.
 
Nice original condition TL200RII thanks to good friend of this site Xavi Salvat
 
 
TL200RII had a tubular diamond steel swing arm that later was replaced for the right-angled aluminium one on the RS200T.
Front forks were still Showa 31mm diameter that also were replaced on the RS's that mounted strongest ones, 33mm diameter.

If you have additional information please send at honda@onlytial.com


Thanks to Hap Oswald from California, US, for this TL200 picture, a nice start for a great Trials bike restoration.

TL200R at weekend trials in Japan thanks to friend Hiroshi Kondo

1979 Honda RS200TS

1979 Honda RS200TS - The Honda Trials History
1979 The Honda RS200TS

This model used the XR 185 engine upgraded to 200cc by RSC. The bike was thought for a Trail use with a enlarged seat, red painted frame and also red mudguards.
This model was lttle bit far from the competitive Trials RSC dinasty models.
Anyway interesting and nice model, well accepted in several markets as Belgium in Europe.



   Picture thanks to the site friend Patrick Verrier

 


Thanks to Tom Siembab from California to share these two RS 200TS pictures

Nice and very original condition RS 200TS thanks to David Malfait

1979 Honda RS200T & RS220T

1979 Honda RS200T & RS220T - The Honda Trials History
 

The very nice RS200T was built from RSC, Racing Service Corporation mounting a Gasoline engine, air cooled 4-stroke cycle, single cylinder inclined at 15º with 197,74cc displacement.

The RS200T had the frame number following the TL200RII, and began with the 2510.
All these machines were engraved with the name RS200T - XXXX (x means the number)

The RS200T had alloy red painted fuel tank and fiber support seat with oval windows on sides.
 
 

The swing arm were on these units light alloy made, had other details as the perforated rear aluminum axes. Later RS250T had also the front one perforated.
 
RS200T from Joan F. (The Honda Trials History)
 
Replacing the TL200R small front forks the RS200T was 33mm diameter Showa forks.
First RS200T bikes had plastic engine plate protector, and later RS220T and RS250T were equiped with strongest aluminum plate. Also shape of the plate was increased a little bit on the side wings.
The RS220T was exactelly same construction but increasing engine desplacement from 197.7 cc to 222.4 cc.
All these bikes were produced in a really small series.
 
Picture thanks to UPY Lift Bikes www.upybike.com
 
There is several informations saying that around 400 units were made. I don't know exactly the figures, but in my opinion the production was bigger.
This nice unit on the pictures  has the 3201 serial number, but seams one of the latest RS200T produced. Knowing that RS200 serial numbers began on 2510 number, at least 690 units were made. Maybe 700 units? 
These 700 units contain the RS200T, RS220T and RS200TS

 
Spanish woman rider Alba Villegas riding the Honda Trials History's RS200T in a Catalonia Championship Classic Trials.

The ENGINE
Gasoline air cooled 4-stroke
Displacement 197,74cc
Valve train: Overhead camshaft chain drive
Maximum Horspower:
RS200T 12.1 at 6.000rpm
RS220T 13 at 6.000rpm
Maximum Torque:
RS200T 1.59 at 4.000rpm
RS220T 1.62 at 4.000rpm
Compression ratio:
RS200T 8.2
RS220T 8.3

Ignition, CDI

The TRANSMISSION
6- Speed transmission constant mesh
Clutch: Wet multi-plate type

The FRAME
Diamond Type, aluminum swing arm
Front suspension 33mm, 70mm travel
Rear suspension alumini¡um swing arm 40mm travel
Fuel capacity 3 lit
Caster angle 26º

The DIMENSIONS
Weight
RS200T 85.8Kg
RS220T 86Kg
Wheel base 1314mm
Seat heigh 720mm


 
Thanks to Eiji Yoshida よしだ えいじ from Japan to send me his nice RS200T picture. 
 

RS200T in a weekend trial in Japan thanks to friend Hiroshi Kondo

1979 Honda bikes

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1979 Honda SEELEY 200

 
 

A very nice restoration (made by La Mola Restoration bikes) made for a friend Spanish collector
Thanks to Jimmy Young we can enjoy with this nice picture. Eddy Lejeune rode in 1980 at Scottish Trials with the Honda SEELEY. I was discussing to John Moffat about this unit because we are not 100% sure about the engine. In Moffat's opinion the engine was a RSC 250cc, but I'm not completely sure. About the bike it is clear was a Collin Seeley one. © of the Picture Jimmy Young.

Based on the XL 185 trail bike, and increased to 195cc from Honda Racing Service, the frame builder Colin Seeley made for Honda Uk this little machine and iniitially planned to build 400 units.



First prototypes of this bike were made in 1977 and rode by Rob Shepherd as official pilot achieving the 4th position on his first championship and 10th position at same time by the US rider Marland Wahley.
Also Eddy Lejeune rode his first SSDT in 1980 with the 200 SEELEY, he was 12 position and the Best Newcomer.
Officially dating from 1979, finally I'm not sure about the final production. But, be carefully because there is some "replicas" on the market.

Let me note that this unit (picture on the top) has a wrong exhaust mufler due to the difficult on the finding spares from these rare bikes. The right one was the same as the contemporary RS's mounted (TL200R, TL200RII, RS200T, and RS 220T) wit only one outlet exhaust tube and the RSC engraved logo.


The ENGINE
Honda Racing Service engine for trials use
Two valves, chain-driven overhead camshaft
Displacement 197,7cc
Compression Ratio 8.3: 1
Power 12.1 hp at 6.000 rpm
Torque 1,98 kg/m at 4.500 rpm
6,77 Kg/Cv

The TRANSMISSION
6 speed, constant mesh

The FRAME
Diamond frame tubing
Wheelbase 1285 mm
Footrest height 400mm
Weight 82,6 Kg
Front suspension: Marzocchi trial 170mm

Nice 1979 SEELEY restoration sent by Stuart.
 
 Two nice pictures from our friend site Joakim from Sweden. Just finished restoration. Take a look at number plate...the Honda Trials History logo sticker, thanks Joakim!
 
 
A nice Seeley 200 in a Lakeland Beck, thanks to Andrew Stoker from Hawukshead, UK

 

 
From Italy and thanks to the friend of this site Paolo Razzini two nice pictures from his very nice restored SEELEY. Thanks Paolo!

1979 Honda Fraser 125

1979 Honda Fraser 125 - The Honda Trials History
Many thanks to Ramon Seuba to have the kindness to inviting me to take this pictures from his nice restored Fraser DMW frame. The picture was edited by The Honda Trials History.
Thanks also to Patrick verrier for the additional information and documents sent to me.
I also would like to thank to the friends of The Honda Trials History Patrick Verrier and Olivier for its special collaboration on this FRASER DMW folder.
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A revolutionary concept.

In 1979 David Fraser of Redditch made this revolutonary bike concept.
He used a frame based on the idea to use the gas tank as part of the frame.
I'm not 100% sure about following, but as I know, DMW (Dawson Motors Wolverhampton) developed these frames, Fraser bought 20 of them and assembled 8 using 2 stroke Villers engine and 12 using the Honda 4 stroke 125cc from the TL 125. 


First units were assembled using a 250cc engine from Villers as the old picture shows (thanks to The Honda Trials history friend Olivier)


First units were assembled using a 250cc engine from Villers as the old picture shows (thanks to The Honda Trials history friend Olivier)


This old document, is a funny picture found by the friend Olivier, from a Japanese book taken at SSDT 82-83. XL125 Honda engine is fitted in this unit.


Probably the only TY engine fitted. Rare Fraser


The Fraser DMW frame naked. Very impressive, gas tank-frame on a central tube with Honda XL125 engine fitted. The front pipe was special to well adapt Honda-Showa front forks


On this picture frame covered with glass fiver coque. Again Honda engine fitted


Probably the first Fraser DMW Honda XL125 (150cc capacity enlarged) engine assembled. For this unit the cover was made in aluminum. Unlike the following units assembled with Honda-Showa front suspension, this one used the old MP 35mm well known on the Pre 65's 
 
Thanks to Donald form Belgium for this picture!

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